X is Making - DDD Podcast Episode 003  
As designers, we often think of making as taking abstract concepts and creating tangible products that can be manufactured and deployed. But what are ways of making that aren’t so obviously tangible? We had the opportunity to meet with Lilly Irani, a design ethnographer activist and professor at UC San Diego, to talk about unconventional forms of making.

Role: Moderator, Editor 
Collaboration with Effie JiaGeorgios Grigoriadis

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